My bike will now not start or run u less the choke is pulled out all the way. Now that you've got dimples can we call you Shirley Temple???? • The PAIR valve completes the burn of exhaust gases in the pipes. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It's the "pair valve mod" then that is what we are talkin about here then. This will remove the popping and backfiring that you get on decel and when you upshift/downshift. Only a Yoshi slip-on installed and oem Quickshifter, and obviously done the pair valve mod. The reason for this is that the VTEC model had an O2 sensor fitted in the exhaust. Cookie. I left the stock reed plates in place but put a couple of those rubber vacuum caps on the nipples. Discussion Starter • #1 • May 25, 2011. ok, I have noticed lots of people think the pair valve mod is awesome. You guys have seen my video on the install of these plates, now you can get them directly from me! I noticed he gives you two different scenarios, one is to take out the 2 plates in order to be rid of the screw another is to use the plates with a dimple for the screw. hahaha I (assume) the same applies for the RC51. JavaScript is disabled. Nov 6, 2003 #2 Re-circulates spent exhaust gases. Half way it sounds like a car with cam. The pair valve on the other hand is worth your time. Discussion in 'Mods, Upgrades, Accessories and Products' started by flatstickHRC, Apr 23, 2011. 2017 CBR1000RR (Akrapovič S/S Headers, Yoshi Alpha T Slip-On, PAIR mod, Woolich ECU flash, Air Intake Tubes blank-off) That was the least effort that still allowed me to remove the solenoid entirely. Buy Pair Valve Removal Kit Hayabusa (99-07) SKU: 280093 at the price of US$ 59.99 | BrocksPerformance.com It is only needed to be done after changing the exhaust it stops the popping on the over run its very simple to do just remove the hose from the pump on the airbox and blank off the hole on the cylinder head sorry got no pictures but i do have a big bag of caps for blanking off the intakes Dude To cover off the use of the PAIR valve, as we understand them. When the VFR went to the first fuel injected model the PAIR valve was still used again to clean up emissions without any problems. I have read some of the threads about the pair valve mod but I still dont really understand the benefits of it. It helped with the sound of my HK3s more than anything else. It’s all for fun so I’m going to go with the auto tune module. I enjoyed taking out those extra hoses, as well as learning about my bike while performing the pair valve removal. Another way to prevent getting this page in the future is to use Privacy Pass. Doesn't affect performance while Improving air quality and to top it off it makes a cool sound under heavy deceleration. Mode … Some say it sounds better, a few even say no difference. There are a lot of ways to go about it... From marbles in the hose to block off plates. The Pair Valve, or "Secondary Air System" is a pollution control "Passive Air Injection" device, designed to "wash out" the purposely rich exhaust of the new metric bikes in order to pass EPA restrictions for import in the United States and other countries with similar restrictions. Joined: Apr 23, 2011 Messages: 1,037 Likes Received: 63. has anyone bothered to remove the PAIR system from the airbox to get a more accurate AF reading on the dyno. The flapper mod sounds like the one I'd like to do first. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > flatstickHRC Active Member. It’s all for fun so I’m going to go with the auto tune module. 2002 - 2009 (and now 2014+, kind of) Honda VFR 800 Interceptor Modification Page • it "injects" air into the exhaust flow. I just blocked the holes using a boat and Hose until my plates arrived. Just basically cleaned the motor area up. The solenoid valve is controlled by the PGM-FI unit and the fresh air passage is opened/closed according to the running condition. Just picked up this new exhaust for my 2014 ninja 650. This is a walk-through for removing the PAIR valve assembly and the secondary air system with all the hoses and junk that are associated with them. I wonder if this is why that one pro tuner guy told me that if I take off the set vavle my bike will run like crap and backfire all the time? I've done the pair valve mod on my VTX when I had it. Performance & security by Cloudflare, Please complete the security check to access. If you are on a personal connection, like at home, you can run an anti-virus scan on your device to make sure it is not infected with malware. Help locating PAIR valve '04 VFR800 I want to do the pair blockoff mod on my '04 VFR. The PAIR system is controlled by the ECM using check valves and a solenoid. It is only needed to be done after changing the exhaust it stops the popping on the over run its very simple to do just remove the hose from the pump on the airbox and blank off the hole on the cylinder head sorry got no pictures but i do have a big bag of caps for blanking off the intakes That's a no-no as condensation accumulates in the hose which eventually fills up and enters the exhaust system. 287 Posts . There are two hoses coming out of my airbox. It draws in air at idle, lower rpms to aid in cleaning up the exhaust emissioins at low or idle speeds. All the way in just cuts off. Your IP: 149.28.141.51 Is this the only benefit ? Removal of the PAIR system will yield three main benefits: 1) weight reduction 2) reduction of engine compartment clutter 3) increase in the scavenging ability of the exhaust system. Modified Throttle Mate, Tornado Intake, Cobra Dragsters, Factory Pro Kit w/ Long-boy, DARKSIDE GYTT 205/70/15, All Balls Bearings & Fork Seals, Mustang Seat, Memphis Fats 19", Saddlemen Shock Cut-out Bags w/ EZ Brackets, Jafrum SB7 Sissy Bag, Stock Shock Mod, National Cycle Paladin Hwy Bars, Cobra Sissy, Kury Engine Covers, Kury License Plate Frame w/ Bolt Lights & RTB w/ Bezels, Glens CPR & 2" Headlight Ext, MADCO Temp-Stick, Choke Removed. 709 Posts . well i … All the … I did mine as a part of the valve adjustment. My bike will now not start or run u less the choke is pulled out all the way. :hmm2:I just done the 1800 and it helped the sound ( got rid of that shasha sound and maybe a little deeper ). This will remove the popping and backfiring that you get on decel and when you upshift/downshift. Introduce yourself and say hello if you like... VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, vtxcafe.com is an Honda enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. It did nothing for power. The diff between the 2 mods is that the PAIR MOD just caps off the holes left behind by removing the pair valve. It's going to gain you any HP just a smoother air flow. Is it worth it , for me Yes would I do it again, yes & would I recommend it, YES ! Not to mention got reid of some weight and a lot of junk. Half way it sounds like a car with cam. Cloudflare Ray ID: 61304c8f1de719b0 • This pair valve plate kit includes everything you need to remove the pair valve system on your VTX1300, VTX1800, or VT1300/Fury Honda motorcycle. This is a mod usually done with an aftermarket exhaust, right? It also clears the way for easier valve adjustments. I left the stock reed plates in place but put a couple of those rubber vacuum caps on the nipples. There are a lot of ways to go about it... From marbles in the hose to block off plates. the effect of the exhaust, through scavenging, can help draw air/fuel charge into the combustion chamber. Its effects are not just on the exhaust side. The PAIR assembly is only an anti-smog device. Discussion Starter • #1 • Apr 15, 2008. ( If you do it get the plates with the dimples ). This shows the simple and easily reversible "marble method" for disabling your PAIR valves. Hmmmm. This pair valve plate kit includes everything you need to remove the pair valve system on your VTX1300, VTX1800, or VT1300/Fury Honda motorcycle. “The Pair valve is nothing more than a way to get fresh air into the exhaust port to complete the burn of unburned fuel to meet federal smog regulations – it can be compared to the smog pump in a car. It's going to gain you any HP just a smoother air flow. A WIN WIN thing. The only thing I saw was someone said it sounds better when you let off the throttle. “The Pair valve is nothing more than a way to get fresh air into the exhaust port to complete the burn of unburned fuel to meet federal smog regulations – it can be compared to the smog pump in a car. The system works by a venturi effect- FROM THE EXHAUST VALVES ONLY. You may need to download version 2.0 now from the Chrome Web Store. There is only one 'Pair Valve' BLOCK-OFF! The PAIR system is controlled by the ECM using check valves and a solenoid. Removing it simply does away with the what the Government wants your syatem to do regarding emisions. this happens from the low pressure behind the exhaust gas pulse. So I completed a pair valve mod last night. The Pair Valve, or "Secondary Air System" is a pollution control "Passive Air Injection" device, designed to "wash out" the purposely rich exhaust of the new metric bikes in order to pass EPA restrictions for import in the United States and other countries with similar restrictions. There is is only one 'Pair Valve' MOD! ", “A Citizen may not be required to offer a ‘good and substantial reason’ why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. As for benefits, the completely uneducated thought that I have is the less involved in the system the smoother and more efficient the system will be. Registered. I'm unsure what the PAIR valve is. But if I'm gonna order plates to block it off, then I'll just order plates for the pair mod too and do it all at once. (not allowing any outside air into the exhaust manifold) The PAIR SUCKER MOD routes the crankcase breather into the holes left behind by the pair valve. 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